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paigemcloughlin's review against another edition
5.0
I read this several times the last reading being some time in 2020. I am going just drop Abigail Thorn's take here and will write a review when I pick it up again which no doubt I will.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rfYvLlbXj_8
required viewing before reaching for Evolutionary psychology arguments.
Update 6/16/2021 Okay the argument of the population with variations and reproduction being an exponential process of growth with a culling due to limited resources generates forms that survive well ending up doing better than varieties at a disadvantaged. It is a brutal and ugly process with some beautiful products like the nineteenth-century Britain of the industrial revolution. It is interesting that Darwin and Wallace are both products of a brutal society producing fine things on an industrial scale making huge amounts of goods and impoverishing the weak. Darwin looms large then and reflects some beautiful theories written in bloody conflict. Darwin was a naturalist but for good and bad his idea had legs.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rfYvLlbXj_8
required viewing before reaching for Evolutionary psychology arguments.
Update 6/16/2021 Okay the argument of the population with variations and reproduction being an exponential process of growth with a culling due to limited resources generates forms that survive well ending up doing better than varieties at a disadvantaged. It is a brutal and ugly process with some beautiful products like the nineteenth-century Britain of the industrial revolution. It is interesting that Darwin and Wallace are both products of a brutal society producing fine things on an industrial scale making huge amounts of goods and impoverishing the weak. Darwin looms large then and reflects some beautiful theories written in bloody conflict. Darwin was a naturalist but for good and bad his idea had legs.
peanutismynamo's review against another edition
5.0
For a Victorian man to see the minute patterns of change over time is a pretty remarkable feat for someone living in an age when Darwin was fully aware of the religious backlash that such a discovery would generate. Not all of his theories have been proven accurate (which doesn't make him wrong), but he is solely responsible for his ground-breaking work on the evolution of plants, evolutionary biology, the formation of coral reefs and atolls and for changing Western thought and ideologies–particularly those entrenched in mythology, mysticism or just plain nonsense.
sortior's review against another edition
5.0
Still extremely relevant. Darwins writing style is engaging and approachable. Yhe inner struggle between his scientific thoughts and religion is human and palpable.
sloreader's review against another edition
5.0
This has to be the greatest called shot in the history of writing:
"When the views entertained in this volume on the origin of species, or when analogous views are generally admitted, we can dimly foresee that there will be a considerable revolution in natural history."
It's not boasting when you're right. Damn, Charles.
"When the views entertained in this volume on the origin of species, or when analogous views are generally admitted, we can dimly foresee that there will be a considerable revolution in natural history."
It's not boasting when you're right. Damn, Charles.
mrericsully's review against another edition
3.0
First off, full disclaimer, as usual I didn't read the book, I listened to it. Also, I did not necessarily listen to this version. This version was the most popular one on Goodreads, that definitively identified itself as being the 6th edition that [a:Darwin|12793|Charles Darwin|https://d.gr-assets.com/authors/1398693802p2/12793.jpg] wrote. Most versions out there are probably the same, but I wanted to pinpoint it for sure.
I listened to the LibriVox version of this book, which was a reading of the public domain version of the book. Also, even though some poor schmuck read Chapter 16: Glossary, I did not listen to it.
This book is a classic work in science that I have intended to read for some time. I originally became very interested in creationism versus evolution the summer after my freshman year of high school. I have always felt that it is better to "know your enemy" and so back then when I still believed in a hard-line, literal, young-Earth, 6-day creation I felt that I should read it. Of course that was almost two decades ago, and it took me this long to pick it up. There of course, have been opportunities to read it, but I have always preferred to listen to it. The former biology teacher I worked with, now my principal, had told me that she had never read it, and that Darwin was very poetic when he wrote. I determined none-the-less a few summers ago when I read [b:The God Delusion|14743|The God Delusion|Richard Dawkins|https://d.gr-assets.com/books/1347220693s/14743.jpg|3044365] by [a:Richard Dawkins|1194|Richard Dawkins|https://d.gr-assets.com/authors/1377030297p2/1194.jpg] finally that I would read [b:The Origin of Species by Means of Natural Selection (or On the Preservation of Favored Races in the Struggle for Life)|22463|The Origin of Species|Charles Darwin|https://d.gr-assets.com/books/1298417570s/22463.jpg|481941]. I stumbled across the LibriVox version about that time, and have simply been waiting to get around to it. I'll admit that I let other classics [like The Great Gatsby and Pride & Prejudice] get in the way, but finally it was On the Origin's time.
First, I am no longer a staunch Creationist. I think however, I'll save that discussion for another time. Also, I don't think Darwin was very poetic- wordy and repetitive yes, but poetic not really. There were a few times when he did wax poetic, but overall he was fairly straightforward with his prose. As I read, I kept trying to put myself back into the past when Darwin wrote this and to think about how groundbreaking of an idea it was. Furthermore, I was surprised that most arguments I've heard against Darwinism and evolution were preemptively addressed by Darwin, or discussed in later editions [specifically the added Chapter VII to the 6th edition to address criticisms. It is frustrating to me that I had the wool pulled over my eyes, like there were valid arguments against evolution and for the Creationist perspective that the scientific community had not addressed, when in reality they were addressed by the founder of this idea. Darwin was very methodical in laying out his case, in pointing out its shortcomings, in citing the experiments he or others had conducted to support his theory, and in showing what was left to be figured out [or even what experiments could prove him wrong].
In fact, I was surprised at how differently science was done in the past. As a naturalist Darwin and his peers did not seem to specialize as much as happens today. Darwin kept up regular correspondences to collect and share data. He was even a member of a birding society in London so that he would have a way to get a lot of breeding and inheritance data without having to go through the hassle of raising so many birds. I particularly enjoyed the descriptions of floating and eaten seeds and how successful they were at growing after being subjected to harsh conditions. This kind of work showed that Darwin didn't just propose a theory, he thought long and hard about its implications and what must occur for it to be correct.
However, I laughed several times when the development of other scientific theories paled in comparison to where they stand today. He, and others at the time, seemed so close to proposing the idea of continental drift, and yet he drew short. He, of course, relied on Lord Kelvin's [or someone following a similar line of reasoning] for the age of the Earth. These shortcomings are not his fault, but still they amused me.
Several times as I was reading the book, I thought about how I'd use it if I was a biology teacher and although the text is probably a little advanced for most high schoolers, it could easily be used in upper-level classes or have snippets given to lower grades. In fact, the summaries at the end of most Chapters [some chapters follow such a common theme that two are summarized together] could be read and appreciated without too much confusion or additional guidance being needed. I also thought that it would make a great class project to create an illustrated edition. This has been done of course, but since the work is in the public domain it would be great to make a public illustrated version using public domain images.
The only real complaint I have it how repetitive Darwin was at times. The book probably could have lost and 1/8th to a 1/6th if he had been more brief. Also, as ground breaking as it was at the time, it doesn't carry the same weight as now when the concept is so accepted and prevalent.
I listened to the LibriVox version of this book, which was a reading of the public domain version of the book. Also, even though some poor schmuck read Chapter 16: Glossary, I did not listen to it.
This book is a classic work in science that I have intended to read for some time. I originally became very interested in creationism versus evolution the summer after my freshman year of high school. I have always felt that it is better to "know your enemy" and so back then when I still believed in a hard-line, literal, young-Earth, 6-day creation I felt that I should read it. Of course that was almost two decades ago, and it took me this long to pick it up. There of course, have been opportunities to read it, but I have always preferred to listen to it. The former biology teacher I worked with, now my principal, had told me that she had never read it, and that Darwin was very poetic when he wrote. I determined none-the-less a few summers ago when I read [b:The God Delusion|14743|The God Delusion|Richard Dawkins|https://d.gr-assets.com/books/1347220693s/14743.jpg|3044365] by [a:Richard Dawkins|1194|Richard Dawkins|https://d.gr-assets.com/authors/1377030297p2/1194.jpg] finally that I would read [b:The Origin of Species by Means of Natural Selection (or On the Preservation of Favored Races in the Struggle for Life)|22463|The Origin of Species|Charles Darwin|https://d.gr-assets.com/books/1298417570s/22463.jpg|481941]. I stumbled across the LibriVox version about that time, and have simply been waiting to get around to it. I'll admit that I let other classics [like The Great Gatsby and Pride & Prejudice] get in the way, but finally it was On the Origin's time.
First, I am no longer a staunch Creationist. I think however, I'll save that discussion for another time. Also, I don't think Darwin was very poetic- wordy and repetitive yes, but poetic not really. There were a few times when he did wax poetic, but overall he was fairly straightforward with his prose. As I read, I kept trying to put myself back into the past when Darwin wrote this and to think about how groundbreaking of an idea it was. Furthermore, I was surprised that most arguments I've heard against Darwinism and evolution were preemptively addressed by Darwin, or discussed in later editions [specifically the added Chapter VII to the 6th edition to address criticisms. It is frustrating to me that I had the wool pulled over my eyes, like there were valid arguments against evolution and for the Creationist perspective that the scientific community had not addressed, when in reality they were addressed by the founder of this idea. Darwin was very methodical in laying out his case, in pointing out its shortcomings, in citing the experiments he or others had conducted to support his theory, and in showing what was left to be figured out [or even what experiments could prove him wrong].
In fact, I was surprised at how differently science was done in the past. As a naturalist Darwin and his peers did not seem to specialize as much as happens today. Darwin kept up regular correspondences to collect and share data. He was even a member of a birding society in London so that he would have a way to get a lot of breeding and inheritance data without having to go through the hassle of raising so many birds. I particularly enjoyed the descriptions of floating and eaten seeds and how successful they were at growing after being subjected to harsh conditions. This kind of work showed that Darwin didn't just propose a theory, he thought long and hard about its implications and what must occur for it to be correct.
However, I laughed several times when the development of other scientific theories paled in comparison to where they stand today. He, and others at the time, seemed so close to proposing the idea of continental drift, and yet he drew short. He, of course, relied on Lord Kelvin's [or someone following a similar line of reasoning] for the age of the Earth. These shortcomings are not his fault, but still they amused me.
Several times as I was reading the book, I thought about how I'd use it if I was a biology teacher and although the text is probably a little advanced for most high schoolers, it could easily be used in upper-level classes or have snippets given to lower grades. In fact, the summaries at the end of most Chapters [some chapters follow such a common theme that two are summarized together] could be read and appreciated without too much confusion or additional guidance being needed. I also thought that it would make a great class project to create an illustrated edition. This has been done of course, but since the work is in the public domain it would be great to make a public illustrated version using public domain images.
The only real complaint I have it how repetitive Darwin was at times. The book probably could have lost and 1/8th to a 1/6th if he had been more brief. Also, as ground breaking as it was at the time, it doesn't carry the same weight as now when the concept is so accepted and prevalent.
craiggle99's review against another edition
4.0
Endless forms most beautiful, indeed.
A pivotal publication hewing to the the basic foundation tying all of biology together. A must read for biology geeks such as me, and I finally read it.
A pivotal publication hewing to the the basic foundation tying all of biology together. A must read for biology geeks such as me, and I finally read it.
shea92626's review against another edition
4.0
This is a very provocative theory, one that I cannot, in truth, readily discount or agree with. In a very small nutshell, there is a force Darwin is calling 'natural selection' that causes the spontaneous changes in an organism that help its survival to continue through its generations to become even more evolved and permanent parts of that organism, as long as they continue to help the organism thrive and survive. Seems like common sense, but Darwin cannot, of course, account for the reasons why or how these changes first occur. This book can be rather a dry read, but I am the most interested during passages where Darwin uses specific examples from his many field studies and research that illustrate his thoughts. Darwin believes most wholeheartedly in this theory and seems to have spent a large part of his life coming to his conclusions. There are even two chapters on dissenting views against his theory, which strengthen my view of him as being sincere and studied in his beliefs. Darwin basically believes that the Creator created a handful of different organisms in the beginning of our world, and the myriad amount of species today have evolved from these few sources. I don't believe this issue is as black and white as fish vs. fish with legs bumper stickers. The theory of evolution still has too many holes for my taste. I mean, if we are continuing to evolve, why is there still a WWE? And why is my boss dumber than me? Can you please explain that to me, Mr. Darwin?